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The Greatest Lie Ever Told November 21. 2006

[rant]...is that God is capricious. I have yet to find a modern religion in the "civilized" world that doesn't believe this lie: God is a judge and we need to "do good" or "be good" to earn his [sic] favor or a place in heaven lest he [sic] rain down affliction upon us the children he [sic] apparently loves. To think that one could fall out of existence is simply ludicrous. If you exist "now" in timelessness you exist always. God is the sustainer and root of all existence. Existence (you) can never move away from existing (God) by the mere fact that God loved you into being once and for all. You can do nothing that displeases God because you can do nothing that takes you out of existence. We have believed the wise serpent in thinking we can define what is good and what is evil. Our definitions of these two concepts are based on nothing but fleeting human experience. There is no good and there is no evil that we can define all definitions are subjective. Further, if God is good and God is the root of existence then evil by definition would necessarily be non-existence and I don't know about you but non-existence doesn't seem like it could exist to me. The goal of human existence is not to please God for we can never do that but rather the goal of human existence is to become aware of the love of God that is all around us, within us, throughout us in all of creation. True we can remain stagnant in our awareness and choose not to learn which religion has traditionally called sin but standing still is not evil... just boring and God will love you no matter how boring you are.[/rant]
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exactly.

and exactly my problem with most churches....god will bless you if you do what i want and god will send you to hell if you don't.

gimme a break. that's about power, not the creator.

i'd have given you three karma points for this if the button went that high.
#1 lou on 2006-11-21 15:00 (Reply)
just to, you know, throw in another thought...

1. Life means suffering.

To live means to suffer, because the human nature is not perfect and neither is the world we live in. During our lifetime, we inevitably have to endure physical suffering such as pain, sickness, injury, tiredness, old age, and eventually death; and we have to endure psychological suffering like sadness, fear, frustration, disappointment, and depression. Although there are different degrees of suffering and there are also positive experiences in life that we perceive as the opposite of suffering, such as ease, comfort and happiness, life in its totality is imperfect and incomplete, because our world is subject to impermanence. This means we are never able to keep permanently what we strive for, and just as happy moments pass by, we ourselves and our loved ones will pass away one day, too.

2. The origin of suffering is attachment.

The origin of suffering is attachment to transient things and the ignorance thereof. Transient things do not only include the physical objects that surround us, but also ideas, and -in a greater sense- all objects of our perception. Ignorance is the lack of understanding of how our mind is attached to impermanent things. The reasons for suffering are desire, passion, ardour, pursue of wealth and prestige, striving for fame and popularity, or in short: craving and clinging. Because the objects of our attachment are transient, their loss is inevitable, thus suffering will necessarily follow. Objects of attachment also include the idea of a "self" which is a delusion, because there is no abiding self. What we call "self" is just an imagined entity, and we are merely a part of the ceaseless becoming of the universe.

3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.

The cessation of suffering can be attained through nirodha. Nirodha means the unmaking of sensual craving and conceptual attachment. The third noble truth expresses the idea that suffering can be ended by attaining dispassion. Nirodha extinguishes all forms of clinging and attachment. This means that suffering can be overcome through human activity, simply by removing the cause of suffering. Attaining and perfecting dispassion is a process of many levels that ultimately results in the state of Nirvana. Nirvana means freedom from all worries, troubles, complexes, fabrications and ideas. Nirvana is not comprehensible for those who have not attained it.

4. The path to the cessation of suffering.

There is a path to the end of suffering - a gradual path of self-improvement, which is described more detailed in the Eightfold Path. It is the middle way between the two extremes of excessive self-indulgence (hedonism) and excessive self-mortification (asceticism); and it leads to the end of the cycle of rebirth. The latter quality discerns it from other paths which are merely "wandering on the wheel of becoming", because these do not have a final object. The path to the end of suffering can extend over many lifetimes, throughout which every individual rebirth is subject to karmic conditioning. Craving, ignorance, delusions, and its effects will disappear gradually, as progress is made on the path.
#2 lou on 2006-11-21 16:34 (Reply)
first iam 46 years old have been brought up to believe in god .was told this by my mother and father.my life has been hell for me for this belief.everyday i used what was from the bible to help me be moral .i found out that prayers are a illusion and belief is also. the bible is a lie from the beginning .like how cain had a wife ,the only way he could have a wife is that he married his sister.so we all come from insest.number 2 i believe this is away to control the masses the church makes you believe this garbage to control us .if not there would be kaos.and this is the biggest lie in our lives and the churches knows this thats why they cannot say anything this is all about money and no taxes for those liars.thank you for letting me speak signed ronald krages
#3 ronald krages on 2007-10-19 11:48 (Reply)

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